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Unterschiedliche Fahrradfahrer haben unterschiedliche Beinlängen. Daher scheint es offensichtlich zu sein, dass die Kurbellänge proportional zur Beinlänge sein sollte. Also sollten langbeininge Fahrradfahrer lange Kurbeln und kurzbeinige Fahrradfahrer kurze Kurbeln fahren. Aber erstaunlicherweise fahren 99,9% aller erwachsenen Fahrradfahrer Kurbellängen zwischen 165 mm und 175 mm. Haben sich die großen Fahrradkomponentenhersteller zu einer großen Verschwörung zusammengeschlossen, damit alle gezwungen sind, die gleiche Kurbellänge unabhängig ihrer Bedürfnisse zu fahren?
Unterschiedliche Fahrradfahrer haben unterschiedliche Beinlängen. Daher scheint es offensichtlich zu sein, dass die Kurbellänge proportional zur Beinlänge sein sollte. Also sollten langbeininge Fahrradfahrer lange Kurbeln und kurzbeinige Fahrradfahrer kurze Kurbeln fahren. Aber erstaunlicherweise fahren 99,9% aller erwachsenen Fahrradfahrer Kurbellängen zwischen 165 mm und 175 mm. Haben sich die großen Fahrradkomponentenhersteller zu einer großen Verschwörung zusammengeschlossen, damit alle gezwungen sind, die gleiche Kurbellänge unabhängig ihrer Bedürfnisse zu fahren?


Hierbei handelt es sich um ein übliches Missverständnis. Die Hebelübersetzung jedes Antriebs - auch als [[Vortriebsverhältnis]] bekannt - ist abhängig von [[Kurbel]]lnänge, [[Reifen]]durchmesser, [[Kettenblatt]]- und [[Ritzel]zähnezahl.
Hierbei handelt es sich um ein übliches Missverständnis. Die Hebelübersetzung jedes Antriebs - auch als [[Vortriebsverhältnis]] bekannt - ist abhängig von [[Kurbel]]lnänge, [[Reifen]]durchmesser, [[Kettenblatt]]- und [[Ritzel]]zähnezahl.





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Unterschiedliche Fahrradfahrer haben unterschiedliche Beinlängen. Daher scheint es offensichtlich zu sein, dass die Kurbellänge proportional zur Beinlänge sein sollte. Also sollten langbeininge Fahrradfahrer lange Kurbeln und kurzbeinige Fahrradfahrer kurze Kurbeln fahren. Aber erstaunlicherweise fahren 99,9% aller erwachsenen Fahrradfahrer Kurbellängen zwischen 165 mm und 175 mm. Haben sich die großen Fahrradkomponentenhersteller zu einer großen Verschwörung zusammengeschlossen, damit alle gezwungen sind, die gleiche Kurbellänge unabhängig ihrer Bedürfnisse zu fahren?

Hierbei handelt es sich um ein übliches Missverständnis. Die Hebelübersetzung jedes Antriebs - auch als Vortriebsverhältnis bekannt - ist abhängig von Kurbellnänge, Reifendurchmesser, Kettenblatt- und Ritzelzähnezahl.


Yes, if you go to longer cranks without changing any of the other variables, you will have more "leverage", which is another way of saying you'll have a lower effective gear...but on a multi-speed bike, you can change gears at will!

Ay, there's the rub! Assuming you adjust your gearing appropriately, crank length has no effect on leverage, it just has to do with the range of motion of the knee and hip joints.

Too-long cranks cause excessive knee flex, and can cause pain/injury if it causes your knee to flex more than it is used to.

I learned this the hard way when I bought a used mountain bike that came with 180 mm cranks. I found that it made my knees hurt every time I rode it.

On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be any deleterious effect from shorter cranks.

I've been experimenting with this a bit myself lately. For my fixed gear, I commonly ride 165 mm cranks with a 42/15 ratio on 700c or 27 inch wheels, when I'm riding fixed. This gives a gain ratio of 5.8.

My latest experiment is taking place on a plastic Trek frame I picked up in a barter deal. I had a pair of TA 150 cranks that used to be on my kids' Cinelli BMX bike, so I've put these on the Trek. I'm running a 45/17, which gives a gain ratio of 5.9, just a bit higher.

When I first get on the bike after riding with longer cranks, it feels a bit funny at first, but within a very short distance it's just fine. I go just as fast, climb just as well. For a given speed, my pedal rpm is higher (though my pedal speed is the same) but the short cranks make it easy to spin much faster than I normally would.

After riding this bike for a few miles, when I get back on "normal" cranks, they feel a bit weird and long at first, then I get used to them after riding a couple of minutes.

I think people really obsess too much about crank length. After all, we all use the same staircases, whether we have long or short legs. Short legged people acclimate their knees to a greater angle of flex to climb stairways, and can also handle proportionally longer cranks than taller people normally use.

Längen mischen

Riders who have one leg longer than the other sometimes attempt to compensate for this by using a shorter crank on the side with the shorter leg. I do not recommend this, however.

When one leg is significantly shorter than another, the shorter leg is also usually weaker than the longer one. Since a short crank results in a higher gain ratio, this setup would ask the the weaker leg to push harder than the stronger one.

A better way to deal with significant leg-length discrepancies is to build up the sole of the shoe, or to use longer bolts and spacer washers between the cleat and the shoe sole, or to build up the pedal by some sort of add on attachment.

Leg length discrepancy can also be somewhat accommodated by putting the cleat on the foot with the longer leg farther back toward the heel.

In some instances, deliberately setting the saddle slightly askew might also help.

Kurbeln für Tandems

Any tandem team needs to come to terms with the cadence issue. With practice and patience, most couples can work this out on a standard tandem. Some teams, particularly those who are not well-matched in leg length or pedaling style may benefit from use of different length cranks for the captain and stoker.

In general, for any given rider, the shorter the cranks are, the easier it becomes to spin a rapid cadence. If the rider who prefers a faster cadence gets longer cranks, this will develop a preference for a slightly slower cadence. If the rider who prefers a slower cadence gets shorter cranks, it will become easier to pedal at a faster rate. The most common crank length is 170 mm. This is what comes stock on most tandems. If you find that you have serious cadence incompatibility, start by installing 175 mm cranks for the rider who wants a faster cadence. If this helps, but not enough, get 165 mm cranks for the rider who has trouble pedaling fast.

Note, changing the crank length doesn't directly change the cadence, and both riders will still be pedaling at the same cadence, but the longer cranks will encourage the "spinner" to slow down a bit, and the shorter cranks will make it easier for the "slogger" to keep up.

Pedalabstand ("Q-Faktor")

The tread, or "Q factor" of a crankset is the horizontal width of the cranks, measured from where the pedals screw in. The wider the tread, the farther apart your feet will be. It is generally considered a good idea to keep the tread fairly narrow. There are three main reasons for this:

  • The hip joint is optimized for walking, and in normal walking the footsteps are pretty much in line, with little or no "tread."
  • For standing pedaling, the farther out the pedals are from the centerline, the harder you have to pull on the handlebar to counterbalance the tendency of the pedaling force to tip the bike sideways.
  • The wider the tread, the higher the bottom bracket needs to be to prevent clipping a pedal while pedaling through a turn.

Older bikes were generally designed to keep tread to a minimum, but starting in the late 1970s there has been a trend to wider tread, for a variety of reasons:

  • The popularity of triple-chainwheel cranksets has moved the right side outward.
  • Front derailers designed for wide-step triple-chainwheels have a more 3-dimensional shape to the derailer cage, which requires more clearance between the large chainring and the right crank.
  • Mountain bikes have wider-spaced chainstays for tire clearance, which requires moving the chainwheels outward so they won't hit the chainstays.
  • Newer bikes with more sprockets in back move the chainline outboard.

Kurbelprofil

Most older cranks were shaped so that they were basically parallel to the centerline of the bicycle. Starting in the 1980s, there was a movement toward "low-profile" cranks. With a low-profile crank, the pedal ends of the arms stay in the same place, but the axle is shortened, and the arms run at an angle, outward from the bottom bracket toward the pedal end.

Low-profile cranks save a bit of weight, and are also potentially stiffer. The design is a real benefit to riders who have a splay-footed (toes out) pedaling style, because they avoid interference between the rider's heels/ankles and the crank.

Some people are down on low profile cranks because they blame the design for the wider tread seen on newer cranks, but that's not an accurate anlysis. The wider tread came first, for reasons mentioned above. The silver lining in the wider tread "cloud" is that it makes low-profile cranks possible with standard frame dimensions.

Liegeräder

For reasons that are not completely clear, many recumbent riders benefit from shorter-than-usual cranks. Some people who have no knee problems on upright bikes find that their knees pain them when they ride a recumbent. Shorter cranks can often alleviate this, though it isn't clear that the long cranks per se are the cause of the problem.

One theory is that the knee pain results from pushing harder, "lugging" in a too-high gear. With an upright bike, if you push very hard you are lifted up from the saddle, so you know you are doing so. With a recumbent, where you are braced against the back of the seat, it may not be so easy to judge how hard you are pedaling, so you may just overstrain your knees by pushing too high a gear without realizing it.

Siehe auch

  • See also my article on Gain Ratios
  • A governing relationship for repetitive muscular contraction Martin JC, Brown NA, Anderson FC, Spirduso WW, Journal of Biomechanics, August 2000
  • Determinants of maximal cycling power: crank length, pedaling rate and pedal speed, Martin JC, Spirduso WW, European Journal of Applied Physiology, May 2001
  • Andrew Bradley "Thanks to my Cranks" doesn't agree with me.

Quelle

Dieser Artikel basiert auf dem Artikel Cranks von der Website Sheldon Browns. Originalautor des Artikels ist Sheldon Brown.